Human on Human Predation / Re-Post

I’m posting this article in full, because the content is important. A major theme of my blog is that many Asperger symptoms are a reaction to being forced to exist in an alien social structure that is built on extreme inequality.  Asperger individuals are aware that predation is aimed at “us” – but may not understand that the ill-treatment we experience at the hands of social typicals is built into the hierarchical social system. Our inability to function within an unjust and cruel social hierarchy is admirable, but we pay a huge price for our inborn egalitarian values.

Asperger individuals are obviously not the sole targets of social predation – All  humans are the “sanctioned” targets of those above them on the social pyramid. Society is a relentless system of competition and oppression; society decides which human beings are legitimate prey – 



The Great Chain of Being simplified- modern


The Great Chain of Being as the model for evolution.

We’re still using The Great Chain of Being as our model for EVOLUTION! It’s insane…


Dunbar’s Number, Science, Western Culture / Link to PRIMATES: An Excellent blog!

Human on Human Predation

It is common wisdom to believe that humans, by and large, lack natural predators in their current environments. That is not true; what humans lack is predators outside our own species. Yes, there is the occasional psychopathic hunter of people who gets dolled up in camouflage, grabs a knife or gun, and makes some trouble. More common, however, is behavior that is predatory but not illegal.The origin of the idea that we, as humans, lack predators can be traced from a combination of the Darwinian scientific concept of evolutionary adaptation, along with the pseudo-scientific idea of Social Darwinism. But if we trace the idea backwards, we find an underlying reliance on the Great Chain of Being, which dates back to Plato.Usually when we talk about predation, we’re touching on the nature of relationships between species (or groups). “Natural” predation is a moral justification for violence: predators should not be judged as mean or cruel, they just are what they are. (This notion is why predators at THE TOP escape punishment, but predators at THE BOTTOM, go to jail. Identify yourself or your product with an animal aggressor or predator – wolf, tiger, lion, shark, bull – and predation is “natural”)

The (idea of) the Great Chain of Being

The Great Chain of Being arrays all existence on a hierarchical continuum. From rock and stone at the bottom to God at the top, the Chain ascends from pure matter to pure spirit. On this continuum, humans occupy a position at the edge of spirit and animals. By holding this position, they are simply defined as being “above” all other animals. Humans hold the right to have power over other creatures and the physical world. It is, effectively, a hunting license. But by the same token, people higher on the chain within the “human” category have a similar license regarding those below them. On the chain, there is always hierarchy. The chain is infinitely hierarchical. Even within each category or subcategory (like “animals” or “dogs” or “members of this pride of lions”) there are ever finer subcategories, whether species or social class. Lions are over gazelles, and kings are over peasants. Leaders are over those they lead, and eaters are over their food.

Medieval scholars believed that within the category of humans, some were higher than others. Thus, a King was higher on the chain than a peasant, and naturally had power over the peasant. In the same way, a husband had power over a wife, and parents over children. (When people claim that behavior such as gay marriage goes against the “natural order” of things, ninety-nine times out of a hundred, The Great Chain of Being  is exactly the idea that they are referencing! TGCB, however, is not “natural” at all. It is a “conceptual structure” that was invented by humans]


Theodore Roosevelt – American Hunter

Predation, or preying on something or someone, is conceptualized in Western culture by referring to this same “natural order.” Humans get to eat animals and plants because they are lower on the food-chain (a biological reductionist version of the Great Chain) than the others. In a scientific and biological sense, this whole idea of predator/prey really is much more complex. We can add in (at least!)  symbiotes and parasites, and not every relationship is wholly consistent. After all, the Chain says that humans rank above polar bears, but I don’t recommend telling a polar bear to his face! “Sometimes you eat the bear…”In a cultural sense, the Great Chain of Being becomes the moral and ethical justification not only between humans and their prey, but also for unequal relationships between people. We move from an theoretically rule-free competition to a justification of hierarchy. And part of that hierarchy is that people higher on the ladder get to use those lower on the ladder.

Human on Human

Is there a difference between competing with other humans for resources and treating them as prey? When we think about it at all, we usually figure that we’re not hunting other humans, we’re just competing with them for resources—food, mates, and all the other biological and psychological necessities. And in most cases that is correct.However, that distinction does not always hold true. The moment that someone, as a human competing for resources, begins to treat other people as resources rather than as fellow competitors, it begins to look more like predation than competition. Looking back at the idea of the Great Chain, we compete with those on the same level, but hold a different kind of relationship with those above or below us.

Why do so many Americans love "Downton Abbey"?
Why do so many Americans love “Downton Abbey”?

Above? Below? Americans have a love / hate relationship with the idea of social class. To look at fiction and literature, they also generally have a very poor idea of its basis. On the one hand, social class is not some inherent feature passed on by “blood,” but is also not some inherent evil. Social stratification is a necessity when it comes to functioning in complex societies. At the same time, it goes against the democratic ideals of America, and at times can be used to cover all sorts of abuses. Remember the idea of the “band“? The approximately 150 people that we can effectively link to socially for cognitive and evolutionary reasons? Any group of people that is larger than that requires social hierarchy. So, social hierarchy can’t be all bad, can it? Democracy tries to counterbalance the tendency of humans, as primates, to hierarchy. It asserts that there is equality, knowing that this is an ideal to be striven for. American democracy doesn’t promote equality, but equality of opportunity. It does not cast aside social hierarchy, but makes a virtue of social mobility.Yet that does not change the nature of these hierarchical relationships. It just means that, at best, we’re not stuck in the one we were born to.

Intraspecies Predation

There is some distinction that we, as humans, make: between socially acceptable forms of predation and those that are unacceptable. Further, some forms of predation are acceptable by those who are higher on the Chain against those who are lower. It is almost entirely acceptable to behave in a predatory manner against other humans, as long as it is done so on a financial level rather than a mortal one. Western culture accepts that unequal relationships exist, that they are good, and that they drive “progress.”

Eat_The_Bankers By Adam Smith from United Kingdom (Eat the Bankers) [CC-BY-SA-2.0 (], via Wikimedia Commons
Ritual Inversion?

Now, a lot of people may disagree that it should be legal, but that is a different matter from whether it is. Even where Western laws exist to prevent abuses, they are often either relatively toothless or poorly enforced. Human on human predation is “allowed” by society (whether legal or not) as long as it doesn’t threaten to collapse the culture as a whole. As long as people in the West act in accordance with the Western tradition of the Great Chain (reinterpreted for local culture, assuredly) they will remain relatively free to behave however they like.

By contrast, it is socially unacceptable, or “against the law,” to hunt other humans with a gun—at least without the specific permission of those higher up the Great Chain of Being / social hierarchy. This is at the core of current police – African American confrontations: the police DO HAVE permission to use deadly force.


7 thoughts on “Human on Human Predation / Re-Post

  1. So – short of replacing the (accursed) social system, the sole answer appears to be becoming a (diagnosably psychopathic) über-alpha? Someone who has ‘1984’ hard-coded at the level of instnct – who lives the darkest version of ‘the inner party’ as if by instinct?

    Or worse still – a highly-initiated (and greatly inhabited) Name-Dropper?

    The phrase used was “Orwell dreamed this, and toned down his nightmares enough to make it believable when he wrote 1984.”

    Because … because Orwell didn’t include Magic(k) in ***his*** dystopia – witchcraft that gave the machinery of state something akin to true god-like omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence.

    The telescreens could observe what you did – in great detail – and record all you did as well. They weren’t ***eyes***. More, they could not ‘read minds’ -and nowhere were their mented ****social arrays**** – which are $the$ things needed to make sophisticated a.i. suites truly Machiavellian (and Narcissistic, and psychopathic…)

    God ***help you*** if you ran into an old and experienced %trash bin% given an up-market social array!


  2. Note also that ‘the great chain of being’ is a magic(k)al concept – found in Hermeticism and related forms of ceremonial magic(k).

    Since ‘notions of hierarchy’ seem to be ‘instinctual’ in Normdom, it is plausible (to me, anyway) that such systems (magical and social) are largely rooted in the instinctual social system (of the socially typical).

    Therefore, it seems distinctly possible that one might read magic(k)al texts and thereby discern the ***true*** unvarnished nature of Normie social instincts – or, rather, use such studies to correct and/or confirm one’s observations regarding Normdom’s irrational (social) proceedings (which, in truth, only really make sense if one is Normal…)


    • I think we’re beyond “understanding” Normdom – have you watched the Sapolsky video I posted on 06/05? “How to have a low stress society / Kill off the male jerks”


      • Yes, today.

        So it would seem that Normdom has a ***lot*** in common (socially speaking) with baboons. (Esp. The dark triad)

        More importantly, we’re ***not*** baboons (to Normies).

        We’re baboon-FOOD.


    • Yes, financial predation might be considered worse! Being flogged in the town square at least gets the punishment over and done with; the “credit system”, once people are dragged into it, is a lifetime sentence of indebtedness! Laws are written to enable the predators, while disabling the prey!


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